
Let’s talk about a house. It’s a beautiful house, maybe even your dream house; it has every amenity you’ve ever looked for in a house, it’s close to a vibrant city center, urban developments, schools, and has easy highway access. It’s even in your price range. Most young people would likely claw the MLS Real Estate listing from our hands and put an offer in immediately, before anyone else heard of this magical real estate rabbit hole. There is, of course, a catch: it’s north of Admiral.
In Tulsa, those three words are often considered enough to write off an entire geographic area, making it unacceptable for living, visiting or otherwise considering in any way. In this article, the first in a series about North Tulsa, we consider why. But hold on, we’re not here to deliver a guilt-driven diatribe; rather, we’re concerned that a ferociously negative attitude and perception of North Tulsa has been built up over the entire lifetime of the city (mostly due to institutionalized racism and the leftovers of segregation) and frankly, you should be too.
We know what you’re thinking. It’s true, there is crime in North Tulsa. There’s an article about a gun-related crime almost every week in our major publications. But what we must consider is that if there’s a crime problem in North Tulsa, there’s a crime problem in Tulsa. Compartmentalizing it, pushing it out of our minds and across the train tracks, is just a way for us to separate ourselves from the problem.
Barber shop in the Greenwood area, once known as “Black Wall Street”.
Photo by Michael Champlin
In many cities across the country, lower-income neighborhoods weren’t always lower-income. Through many racially-driven practices in the 1930’s, mortgage companies began segmenting major cities into regions where they felt comfortable lending money, and regions they didn’t. Soon, this practice was adopted by insurance companies as well. As one can imagine, the neighborhoods they refused to lend to, or insure, were predominately African American, though this also happened with Mexican, Asian and Jewish neighborhoods. The practice is referred to as redlining, because when the mortgage companies decided not to lend within a particular area, the area was colored red on the map. This practice is a major contributor to the modern day ghetto. This is the case with most major cities, but Tulsa is different. As we know from the information gathered for the Report on the Tulsa Race Riot of 1921 [link], North of the Frisco railroad tracks (parallel to Archer St. in Downtown Tulsa) was a predominately African American neighborhood, specifically concentrated around Greenwood. The area was nicknamed “Black Wall Street”, and it was almost completely destroyed during the race riots. This tells us that North Tulsa has been predominately black since our town’s beginning. This didn’t mean that redlining didn’t exist, however, Tulsa just made it easier for the mortgage companies to discriminate against North Tulsa, as the city overall was mostly segregated by the 1930s.
So for whatever reason, Tulsans often have a very negative perception of the north side. We’ve probably all heard some heinous things said; we’ve even heard of people who refuse to go downtown because it’s near North Tulsa. Within a few months of opening, the Gateway Market, a new grocery store at Pine and Peoria, was robbed at gunpoint; a horrible tragedy for any business, not to mention its employees and guests, to endure. A citizen commented on the Fox 23 story regarding the robbery that “North Tulsa does not deserve to have anything nice until they start taking care of their own neighborhood.” This kind of sentiment is startling, but widespread. Comments on other sites, such as the Tulsa World, echoed the same sentiment: that somehow the store had it coming. Do we, as citizens, as human beings, really believe that anyone deserves to be robbed? Additionally Gateway Market opened at that particular location to serve a part of the community which hasn’t had a major grocery store for years. This is precisely the kind of perception that only worsens the problem. When someone is shot at 51st and Peoria we don’t say “Better stay away from Midtown!” North Tulsa is constantly chided as dangerous and unsafe, but many places in Tulsa have high crime rates including West Tulsa and East Tulsa.
Are there are exceptions to the “Don’t go to North Tulsa” rule? Of course. How about the Zoo? Mohawk Park, Gilcrease Museum, the Tulsa Air and Space Museum and Oxley Nature Center are all congregated north of our very own proverbial “Mason-Dixon Line”. Families from Broken Arrow, Catoosa, Tulsa, Sand Springs and beyond flock to the Zoo every year; people fish the Mohawk Park Reservoir, and busloads of school children are shuttled to and from Oxley Nature Center. We can likely all agree that these are some of our city’s greatest treasures, and without North Tulsa we might lose them to Bixby or Jenks. Recently Newsweek rated Booker T. Washington High School the 58th best high school in the nation. Is giving your student a great education worth the risk of traveling to North Tulsa? Parents citywide have decided that it is.
Tulsa’s skyline from the Reservoir Hill neighborhood.
A lot of progress has been made in recent years on the western side of “North Tulsa”, particularly immediately west and north of downtown. Neighborhoods like Crosbie Heights, Owen Park and Brady Heights are experiencing a sort of rebirth fueled by the influx of a younger, more open-minded demographic. Many people remain skeptical about the safety of these neighborhoods, and still others wouldn’t technically call this “North Tulsa”. But it’s still all about perception. Neighborhoods like Reservoir Hill (north of Pine on Denver) and Gilcrease Hills (Gilcrease Museum Road and Pine) have been long-standing neighborhoods in North Tulsa. In Reservoir Hill, if you blink twice you may think you’ve gone into a wormhole and come out in a posh San Francisco neighborhood.
Many people think North Tulsa and begin to think of things like gangs, guns, violence and drugs; the truth is people who think those things often haven’t seen enough of North Tulsa to make an informed judgment. Many people raise their families, live happy lives and grow old in North Tulsa. Crime is a problem our whole city needs to face. Our city is facing a massive deficit, and one reason we’re losing sales tax revenue is because so many young families move to Jenks, Bixby, Owasso and Broken Arrow; when people move to the suburbs they no longer pay property tax to the City of Tulsa, and much of their disposable income goes to businesses in their immediate vicinity. If we can alleviate crime and solve other crucial problems that are holding back our city (and not just its northern side) perhaps we can take steps toward changing perceptions. In a modern day 2010, Tulsa cannot afford to continue alienating North Tulsa. We can neither fiscally nor ethically afford it. It’s time for all of us to get serious about Tulsa’s problems and stop thinking about geography. We encourage you to explore “North of Admiral”; you may be surprised by what you find.




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My husband and I lived at Pine and Lewis for years before moving to a rural area so I could have horses. The neighborhood was quiet and friendly. We were an ethnically diverse group with whites, African Americans, Hispanics, and even a young Lithuanian couple all existing peacefully on the same block. The elderly couple behind us had lived there for fifty years. I wouldn’t hesitate to move back.
I really, really like this post. Tulsa has such distinct – some would argue, culturally and racially distinct – districts that it becomes easy to remain in the parts of town in which a person lives, works and attends school and church. But what you’re advocating is important – it’s vital that we stretch our comfort zones and explore parts of town we don’t know much about. And, it’s downright silly how little so many Tulsans – me included – know about north and east and west Tulsa and how we allow stigma to control our willingness to get to know these rich and historic parts of our city.
Let’s keep the dialogue going! Great article!
I’m the person in the first paragraph except for one small difference….I put an offer on the house and bought it! I love my 1935 brick bungalow, I love my diverse neighbors, I love my diverse community, but then again….I was raised here. My mother still lives in the house in which I grew up. I walk my dog at one of my old elementary schools and take her over to the track at my old high school to play catch. We feel as safe here as anywhere else in the city. North Tulsa is a great place to live.
Great article.
Tulsa Historical Society and the North Tulsa Historical Society.Yes there are two distinct entities.
The most current source and possibly the most extensive, is the National Park Final 1921 Tulsa Race Riot Reconnaissance Survey. The survey was commisioned by the Greenwood Chamber of Commerce and the John Hope Franklin Center for Reconciliation in 2003 and was released in 2005.
Greenwood and the surrounding areas relevant to the riot passed the first steps for qualification into the Department of Interior’s Nation Park Service. This report clears up alot of the urban myths and legitimizes some of the “conspiracy theories”. Rather than keeping these areas “intact” as recommended by the survery’s conclusion, the city chose to build OneOk Stadium right in the center of the area. There was no publicity about the report or it’s conclusions.
It is available through the Rudisll Public Library.
We choose to live in North Tulsa. We like it. My husband jokes that our motto should be: “Don’t make us come down there.” Why not use all the fear of us North Tulsa hooligans, right? (-:
I like this article. Thanks for writing it.
I lived in Tulsa for 8 years and spent the last 2 of those “North of Admiral”. It was by far the most charming, community-spirited neighborhood of all the others I lived in during my time there.
Thanks for this great article! I recently moved to North Tulsa. I remember growing up hearing about what a terrible place North Tulsa was. I find it to be quite different. We all know why people say that, we just don’t say it out loud. Like any neighborhood, it has its pockets of greatness and pockets of not-so-great. No different than anywhere.
Colleen:
Nice article. I am one of the parents who was willing (even happy) to drive my child to Booker T. for high school and developed a lot of affection for the North side of Tulsa. Later, after my student graduated, I worked on the North side for a couple of years. I was dismayed when the Albertson’s at Pine and Peoria went under. In the Fall of 2008, my closest friend (a Jenks resident) and I got in a really horrible fight (not speaking for weeks) because I refused to vote “Yes” on the River Tax initiative because I was going to be damned if I would vote yes for anything in South Tulsa when North siders didn’t even have a grocery store. I invited her to take a drive to explore in North Tulsa (she has not yet taken me up on it). Bravo for your article. I am forwarding it to my Jenks friend.
I love being north of Admiral. It’s like a small town away from the hustle and bustle of the south part of Tulsa. I dislike though that every time there is a news report or anything we’re single out as NORTH Tulsa like it’s always a bad thing. Tulsa is Tulsa. I have a city view from my home. I am near all the amenities I need. Interstates, entertainment, airport. This area is the best kept secret in Tulsa. Property is reasonable and people are kind and considerate. Neighborhoods are quaint. I moved here not knowing the stigma of North Tulsa but if I had the chance to do it again and did know. I would not do anything different.
This article makes a great point, but I don’t think it’s the one you intended to make. That point being that North Tulsa has some nice spots. Reservoir Hill is great. Gilcrease Hills is nice. There are areas of far N. Tulsa that have less crime than anywhere else in the city.
Problem is, these areas are the exception, not the rule. There’s a reason the Albertson’s went out of business. Albertson’s sold their stores, and no one would buy the one in N. Tulsa due to the losses from shoplifting, despite the fact they were paying security guards.
Truth is, you’re far more likely to get shot North of Admiral than South of Admiral. That you can seek out small islands of safety is little comfort to most people. Tulsa is so spread out that most people can live wonderful lives without ever venturing North of Admiral except to go to the zoo or the airport.
If you want N. Tulsa to thrive, you’re going to have to confront the real problem head on. It’s not a crime problem. It’s not a poverty problem. It’s a race problem. You have an area of town where the predominant race is one that thinks the solution to any problem is to pull a gun out and start shooting.
Why are Reservoir Hill and Gilcrease Hills nicer, safer areas of N. Tulsa? Because they aren’t full of black people. Sadly, it’s that simple. Push the blacks out with new development, and you’ll push the crime out. Develop with the blacks in mind, as the new owner of the grocery store on Pine did, and you’ll invite crime in. The place has already been robbed twice, and the owner says shoplifting is hurting his bottom line. I predict the store will close again by 2012.
I bought my childhood home from my parents just north of Admiral by Yale. It is a quiet area away from the busy southside and yes there are some really great people on my block and they have been there as long as I can remember but most are dying off and instead of new perm residents moving in they are changing into rentals and well, becoming shacks.
Everything I need is close by but not all I want. In order to get to those places I have to travel to the other side of town and find that I just go without rather than fight the traffic and pay for the gas.
My home has been robbed 4 times in the past 2 years and I have taken every security measure I can to prevent more “knock on wood” and have. And to you fellow northsiders if you see someone in your neighborhood that doesn’t belong and is acting suspicious don’t be afraid to intervene! 2 of those robberies I mentioned the perps were caught and I got everything back because a neighbor intervened and called the cops! Thanks nieghbors!!
I would really love to see North Tulsa become something more but have no idea how it could be possible.. Many of the homes in my neighborhood are in shambles and no one is bothering to fix them.. I am remodeling my home and hope that others do.. If everyone in North Tulsa would step up and make at least there home a better nicer home then maybe those larger restaurants and stores will come to us and more people will want to live here…
If everyone just tries we can be Tulsa not north tulsa
I was raised at 27th and Sheridan and was one of those bused in to Emerson, Carver, and Booker T. so I have experienced the North Side all of my life. Since moving back to Tulsa after university (10 years ago), I settled in Downtown and now live off of North Admiral. My sister won’t let my nephew stay the night here because of the stigma of North Tulsa. In my own experience, however, I hear just as many stories about robberies, home invasions and the like happening in every other part of Tulsa. I think the city should relegate some of the funding for greening up and laying fancy brick sidewalks in North Tulsa, Admiral for example, that is does in Midtown and South Tulsa.
The truth is, we don’t like to go south of 31st if we don’t have to!
I wonder if Dwight Guy would then blame all crime in areas that are not perceived as predominantly black on the dominant ethnic group in said area; i.e. south Tulsa, west Tulsa and midtown are perceived as predominantly white so any and all crime in those areas must be caused by white people. I guess the answer is to push out the whites.
Somehow, I don’t think that’s Dwight’s point. Hmm, seems to be a racist problem; which incidentally is at the root of many of these issues-it’s called institutionalized and systematic racism and it’s been around for a long time. I wonder if Dwight is open to that possibility? Time (and possibly Dwight’s reply to this comment) will tell….
PS: I live “north of Admiral” and have always felt safe. Oh, and my non-north tulsa friends love coming to my house for garden parties…
If I wasn’t moving away for grad. school I’d stay put in the house i bought 6 years ago!
I am from Oklahoma City up until I married last October and moved to Tulsa. I’m from the southwest side of Oklahoma City which in some areas especially by Capitol Hill high school is considered the ghetto. This has made me not afraid to drive in most places. After moving to Tulsa my his and I are looking for a home. I have noticed some nice houses in North Tulsa, however, the houses next door didn’t look so nice. I couldn’t understand why you would see one nice newer house and two run down old houses in a row and then repeat. I also didn’t understand why you would have a few nice newer house in the same area as rehabilitation living. Just from being an outsider here one can definantly tell when you’re in North Tulsa just by things looking sloppy and run down. Since I’m looking for a house I will go check out some of the “established” neighborhoods listed in this article and see what comes of if. I would love to live in a diverse place near where I work but at the same time I don’t want to have to worry about the higher rate of a break in. And yes, while there are break ins everywhere some places are higher than others, and if you could wouldn’t you want to avoid that area as well?
Jay, I won’t blame the crime in white areas of Tulsa on the predominant race, because even in predominantly white areas, blacks commit a bizarrely disproportionate amount of the crime. I’m speaking mainly of violent crime.
I’ll also say again that there is less crime in South Tulsa, with the exception of the area around 61st and Lewis / Peoria, which is predominantly black.
I stand by my earlier comments. I’m not prejudiced. I do not “pre judge” people. I base my comments on experience, both personal and observed through the media. Blacks commit more crimes per capita than any other racial group. That’s a fact that you cannot get around.
I live North of Admiral, too, Jay. In a predominantly white area. Head a few blocks one way or another, and you’ll be in a predominantly black area, and you will NOT feel as safe. Nor should you. Personally, I carry a concealed handgun.
I’d love to see a strong black leader convince every young black male to refrain from committing crime for a month to see just what would happen. Get them to stop permanently, and we could lay off half our police force, and eventually start reducing the number of prisons.
Great article. Just ran into your site and I’m doing “local Tulsa” as well.. (blogging). Like your perspective. Keep up the goods!
I live in the Kendall Whittier neighborhood north of Admiral. Mam you don’t know what
you are talking about and “you are wrong.I am a antique collector(it is my life’s passion)
in 2009 my house was burglarized and I had almost everything of value I owned stolen, my
brother in law used to run a antique store just south of pine street, in 2010 he closed it
after he was held up and robbed at gunpoint “”two different times”". The only reason
he is alive today is because the gun the last robber used jammed when he tried to shoot him.
Last year on Tuesday December 18th 2012 at 8:20 pm (one week before Christmas)I was crossing Archer and Lewis just behind the Los Americanos grocery store(I was going to MR.Taco)when A couple
of guys tried to mug me, when they realized that they weren’t going to get anything they punched
me knocking me down and left, as I was falling by reflex I put out my left arm to try and stop my fall when I did I broke my left wrist (I am left handed by the way)It is still mending I got my cast off last Wednesday, but I am still using pain pills because it is still bothering me.
I do not say this lightly but North Tulsa is a worthless crime ghetto. I would also like to add when I was growing up until the age of nine my family lived straight west of McClain High School on Elwood Avenue. I have not moved out of NORTH TULSA yet, because of financial reasons (I am on Disability because I have 20/200 eyesight and am considered legally blind, it really not as bad as it sounds) I also do not say the following lightly,and no I am not crazy or mental but, The majority of minority races here in Tulsa do not follow Western Christian or American Culture, morals, ethics and laws, accordingly in my opinion, they should be segregated to and in North Tulsa, north 0f I-244, Just like the city discreetly suggested and attempted back when the Civil rights was passed, it is a shame when a intelligent man has to say and suggest such things, not to mention when he is driven because of crime to even thing such extreme things.
Until money can come into the area and buy a home to flip or rent out without it being broken into and everything in it being stolen in under a week, then north tulsa will always be north tulsa and not part of the rest of tulsa. The people living there feel like prisoners in their own homes. The area is actually much worse than it appears, because the individuals there are too afraid to report crimes due to the backlash. I’ve bought more than one home in North Tulsa. It’s run down, because the community runs it down. The subsidized rents raise the prices for the honest people who are trying to take care of their families. It’s pretty disgusting what’s happening up there and your pretty picture of parks and zoos paints the exceptions to North Tulsa. The truth is, cross pine your life is on the line.
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